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Friday
Dec142007

Wikipedia and Wikia are Dead. Google Just Killed Them

Google announced last night they are starting a project called knol that will allow anyone to create wiki-like pages on topics. In particular, Google is encouraging people who know a particular subject to write an "authoritative" article about it. The search engine will not vet any of the content, however, they will prioritize the most credible entries and rank them first in search results. It remains unclear how Google is measuring credibility - a scary thought.

Still, with this move Google is clearly targeting Wikipedia (which is perhaps their biggest rival) and quite possibly is trying to ensure that Jimmy Wales' forthcoming social search engine, Wikia, is dead on arrival. Consider the timing of this announcement. It comes just days before Wikia is set to launch in beta and when Google doesn't even have any site we can poke at.

My initial take on this is that knols are going to kill Wikipedia - but it will take time. This theory, however, hinges on whether people actually start creating knols, but I believe they will. Here are several reasons why Wikipedia and Wikia are dead ...

1) The fame factor - Google prioritizes knols over Wikipedia


In theory, Google no longer needs to rely on Wikipedia for fresh content. The search engine will prioritize content from its own system and rank the most credible articles more highly than anything in the open source encyclopedia. This alone will encourage people to add to the commons. It will take time though for Google to reach a critical mass with its knols. Do not underestimate the power of fame.

2) Official sources and experts are welcomed, not spurned.


I love the openness of Wikipedia. However, I have long chided its lack of openness toward corporations and other sources of authority. As much as we would like to think people don't want corporations playing in our sandbox, most average users welcome organization and multiple perspectives. This is why we still have a thriving profession called editors. When it comes to corporations, Google is open, Wikpedia is closed.

3) Infinite Resources


Wikipedia has been trying to raise money for a long time now. Meanwhile, Google has infinite resources and the most powerful marketing vehicle on the planet to push it.

I am excited about the launch of this initiative. It is my hope that corporations and organizations that play by the rules will be able to unleash their subject matter experts to add content to the commons in a way the community accepts. There's no reason they should be excluded, provided there is some degree of counter balance.

What's even more exciting is that it reinforces the role of PR in this new wild and wooly online world. Now granted, we will have to play by the knol rules and be transparent. Still, this is all very exciting and in the process it might even get Wikipedia to change some too - for the better.

Reader Comments (39)

now what about mahalo?
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterThomas Marban
Oh it's a threat to Mahalo as well. However, I do believe they come at it differently and that Mahalo will begin to focus more on news and current events.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Rubel
And don't forget:
At the discretion of the author, a knol may include ads. If an author chooses to include ads, Google will provide the author with substantial revenue share from the proceeds of those ads.


Altough Mahalo shares revenue, wikipedia doesn't. A clear advantage to snatching authors.

December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterArmando Alves
What about the fact that Google will share revenue with the author? Wouldn't that be a reason for people to start writing a knol instead a wiki-entry?
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDaan
I will probably add about.com to this list as well.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAmit Agarwal
Perhaps we are in the midst of a new saying:

"For whom the bell tolls, it tolls from knols."
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLou Paglia
If I may dissent here...

Every time Google rolls out a new product, people rush to say "competitor xyz is dead," but frankly this hasn't really happened.

Google Checkout didn't kill PaypalGoogle Base didn't kill Craigslist or EbayGoogle Docs didn't kill MS OfficeFroogle didn't kill all the shopping searches out therethe list goes on...

Even Gmail, one of Google's most successful products, hasn't achieved the dominance many claimed it would... The same is true of Google Reader... etc

So, when "Knol" doesn't kill Wikipedia, probably the most popular content site online, don't be surprised.

Wikipedia, with millions of pages of content, has a huge head start. And as the default site for information on pretty much any topic, its lack of ads will always give it a leg up as people use the site with the assumption that it has not been optimized, adjusted, skewed, etc to suit contextual ads. That won't be true of Knol.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMax
Mahalo is a non-starter. With the concept that they have, one would think there really is no spam. First search BLAM - spam. Last search.

As for Knol, the analysis is spot on, bye bye wikipedia. The money factor of difference is the one that will drive people away from it.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJeppis
Steve, your first point is key, and probably the #1 driver.

Wikipedia (50M+ uniques) tends to be result #2 or #3 for A LOT of Google search results, it makes sense for Google to want to keep some of those people within the Google ecosystem.

Traffic chart: http://hepguru.com/blog/2007/12/14/wikipedia-stats-unique-visitors-knols/

December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJay Meattle
Two Words:

Google Video.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJames O'Hagan
According to the Google post, anybody will be able to SUBMIT edits, presumably which the author will approve or not. That's not community editing, so the appeal is entirely different. One of the reasons I usually trust most Wikipedia entries is the knowledge that it has been revised and corrected by the many knowledgable people who view it. The content on knol will be entirely controlled by the author. As a knowledge resource, that has less appeal to me.

I also agree with Max, by the way. Google dominates in search and is a secondary player in nearly everything else it undertakes (a point underscored in a BusinessWeek article not too long ago). I wouldn't count Wikipedia out just yet.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterShel Holtz
I agree with Max and Shel, and I think you may come to regret having written this entry. (It seems likely to end up on a "worst prediction" list.)

Wikipedia is special precisely because many people edit and contribute to a single article. I don't care how smart an expert is, no single person is smarter than the hundreds or thousands of experts that contribute to a high profile Wikipedia article. It gets back to the wisdom of crowds.

The last point is that Wikipedia is alive, where Knol sounds more like traditional media. Wikipedia has up to the minute information about big current events. Knols sound more like blog entries or newspaper articles -- they will probably be written once, and then never edited again.

Lastly, I will leave you with one final thought: What makes this better than About.com?
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJulius
Uhm..share revenue: if knol make,this is a bad things. An enciclopedya have to be free and without money around..
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDario Salvelli
Since when does new+google=unstoppable?

This could become very interesting. But it could also become known as "Self Promotion R Us" or "Bullshi**er central." Community editing has its value -- it results in sometimes bland but usually balanced results. This will be much more interesting but not necessarily factual entries -- they'll be biased if the author is biased.



December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJosh Bernoff
Steve,

Nice post, and your headline is definitely an attention getter. I've linked to it in a post of my own that ponders Wikipedia's value in providing conformed topic entries. I'm just wondering if you've considered all the major variables here.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAlan Morrison
Wikipedia is trying to be a public encyclopedia of collectively edited knowledge. Knol is an attempt to keep Wikipedia from totally dominating search results. Two very different goals.

About.com is dead. Wikipedia is just fine.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterzota
I'm not sure this will work? The great advantage of Wikipedia is that it is (at its best) the results of many people (sort o agreeing on something.

Whereas knol will result in many articles about one subject. And each will contribute one (possibly highly biased) view-point. But to get all the info, you'll have to read several articles which won't have been argued over like Wikipedia. And at the end of it all, you won't know who to believe.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMike Bennett
If I understand your argument here, Steve, it seems that you're saying that people will flee from a free, open source wiki that has tons of momentum and community backing to one that has a top-down, undisclosed method for ranking credibility and an affinity for corporations?

Boy are you wrong on this one. Online communities go where they feel like they have control. Wikipedia's biggest asset is its community.

And I don't buy that the advertising rev share -- as cool as that is -- will drive people away from Wikipedia. Nobody writes articles on Wikipedia for money. They do it because they care.

Until Google figures out how to leverage that passion, knols won't touch Wikipedia.

Also, I agree with Max.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTeresa Valdez Klein
I agree with Max, Google has launched several 'this will kill the competition' projects and I have yet to see one completly succeed.

Also lets not forget, Wikipedia was launched to provide a free on line encyclopedia and I don't recall them asking for certain top positions in Google. That came as a result of Google's algorithm. So why should they care if Google decides to change that.

I do believe knol will be an interesting project but certainly not a 'killer'.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenteriAnon
Are you sure the dead body here isn't Google's? Seems this effort is more dangerous to the value of Google's core offering - search - than it is to any of its so-called competitors. What you're implying is that Google will substitute some other way of evaluating authority for Page Rank. Favoring a Knol author instead of Wikipedia or any other freely available Internet source (whatever ranks highest) is counter to Google's underlying principles. That would erode the value of its search results.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTodd W.
I agree with Max, Google has launched several 'this will kill the competition' projects and I have yet to see one completly succeed.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered Commentertraffic maps
Good post.

I think this will be very successful regardless of the impact on Wikipedia.

I didn't see anything in the Google announcement about "how" content is produced. It is certainly easy to collaborate on content development right now through Google Docs. I can't imagine that when Google finally launches Jotspot that it won't also "publish" to Knol.

December 14, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKevin Gamble
Yikes. That's a very sensationalist headline.

As long as Google does not give special priority to a knol and does not unfairly rank a knol higher than everything else then it's just another page.

Has Google said anything about a knol being ranked above everything else? The only thing they may do is share more revenue on knol pages.

Google is finally getting the jump on something that has to do with social media. They lost when they competed with Facebook, Facebook API, YouTube, Yahoo Answers. Now threats from Mahalo.com and Wikia were looming and they are leveraging the power of their search engine to keep from being beaten again.

and Wikia and Mahalo never had any big chance of beating Google at Search any way. Now they'll just have a tougher time competing with Social Content Generated Search.

And since when is a Knol a "wiki-like page"? A wiki is collaborative and editable by almost anyone. A knol is created by a single author and the content seems to be questioned and rated by members. Wikia and Mahalo are in danger but not wikipedia.
December 14, 2007 | Unregistered Commentergarg
Wikipedia will only die off if they don't find a way to survive, which may or may not happen. Personally, I'd hate to see Google kill them off for the very reasons you point out. Google has an advantage in power and searchability and the last thing I want to see is loss of competition, in which everyone benefits. But I guess we shall see.
December 15, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKat
I'm so glad that *something* is going to help kill off Wikipedia, but it's a problem that Google is doing it, and not natural attrition. The lifeblood of Wikipedia was all those hits that Google gave its pages in the number one spot on practically every search, where, due to the essential Google laziness problem, because it *did* churn up first, you then clicked on it, and perpetuated the problem -- you didn't click because it was authoritative, but simply because it was there.

While it might take a while for the knols to perk up to the top of Google (if Google is honest about not artificially boosting them), precisely because they will be made up of real experts and as you say real institutions, instead of anonymous and obsessive freaks, they will acquire more hits the honest way.

That still leaves us with the problem of Google itself...
December 15, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterProkofy Neva

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